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[fraankie]

hi, been really busy
now, the great thing about the program
to me
(since i came in, el sponsensore' told me)
is everyone one works the program to the best of their ability
and
in essence, has their own program

so, theoretically, no 2 fellows have ever had the same program
steps, tradtions, meetings, sponsor, no sponsor, big book, sharing, fellowship, etc
do your own thing
don't drink and go to meetings
traditicione' numbre quatro
you're in if you have the desire "not" to drink

so
literally
someone can come to a meeting
sit down
walk out
and
no 90 and 90
no steps
no traditions
no sponsor
no big book
not say one worddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
ikkeeee muchacha
not even hold hands at the end of the meetingoine'
and
recite el serenity prayero with the grupo
but
as long as he does not drink or use mind altering drugs
he is a member
am i correct????????????????????????????/
ok, you got me
he should at least go to a meeting on his anniversary

feedback please


best
frankie

[Tazman53]

fraankie you may get more replies by starting a new thread on this.

[navysteve]

You can be a member even if you drink or do drugs. Membership in AA does not equal recovery from a hopeless state of mind and body.

I don't get caught up in the your program/my program/ the program stuff. That causes riduculous AA semantics arguments...
But I agree...

so
literally
someone can come to a meeting
sit down
walk out
and
no 90 and 90
no steps
no traditions
no sponsor
no big book
not say one worddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
ikkeeee muchacha
not even hold hands at the end of the meetingoine'
and
recite el serenity prayero with the grupo

We can't kick anyone out of AA, but we can ask you to go to another meeting...

AA membership is different from group membership or recovery. Working the steps in more than one way is true. The only AA literature that tells me how to work the steps is the Big Book

[fraankie]

my commentary on this thread has been to inspire insight in ourselves
to reply
and
to realize our position on program topics

[DSodaNow]

Taz- just wanted to say that I absolutely don't see where Fraankie is coming from. I personally really appreciated your share. I am new to AA and I found your description of this man to be inspirational. I wish I could have seen him speak so that I could share his inspiration with others.

It is too bad that Fraankie does not see it this way. I mean jeez I almost feel like I am listening to a Bible thumper attack someone else's religion!

Kudos

[CarolD]

Originally Posted by fraankie

my commentary on this thread has been to inspire insight in ourselves
to reply
and
to realize our position on program topics

Hi Frankie...

Why not begin another thread
and let's see how it goes?

Thanks....

[navysteve]

D,
You will encounter some pretty rigid opinions. It doesn't make them thumpish. Just means they have some deep convictions. I agree with you that Taz's description of this man to be inspirational.

[joeycutnurhair]

i feel that this place is somewhere for us to speak how we feel, it is OUR experience, strength and hope. i do not think that he was judging the speaker!!!!!! period what happened is he touched someones life, taz. thanks for sharing that with us. a lot of us need to look at ourselves and the cool thing is to see the similarities not the differeences. thanks taz

[fraankie]

now, i don't need to say it
but
taz knows i'm his pal
right, taz?

anyway, yesterday in the n.y. times was a historic headline
the first african american to win the democratic nomination in the country's history
and
i've been checking out the debates
something we would do in high school
brother lucian would pick 2 of us
and
we would have to debate opposites sides of the topic
occasionally it would be an event in the auditiorium, etc
so
i wasn't doing anything more than arguing the opposite side of a random thread
best to all
fraankie
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[kj3880]

Whaaaat???

[DSodaNow]

I am with KJ....

[navysteve]

This isn't a debate thread. You accused Taz of taking someones inventory.
When I responded that taking inventories of others was perfectly ok.

You told me how long you were sober

4841 days and 18 hours, 41 minutes, ........seconds
in recovery

And went on another rant. You did not come here looking to debate issues, this isn't politics, you seemed to come here looking for a fight.

Your posts were hostile in my opinon

[CarolD]

Hi Everyone...
let's chill with the personal baiting of others.
Wonder what happened to the Topic?

Thanks!