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04-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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Just wanted to let you know that a thread was deleted that was posted by a troll. Thanks, MG
__________________  Pro 11:14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counselors there is safety. |
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04-21-2008, 03:48 PM
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| sobriety is my yoga  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in the present moment
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you are amazing! thanks for all you do here!
__________________ i close my eyes and see clearly i stop trying to listen and hear truth i am silent and my heart sings i seek no contact and find union i am still and move forward i am gentle and need no strength i am humble and remain whole (ancient taoist meditation) |
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04-23-2008, 05:13 AM
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As long as the Troll has the capacity to be honest, they too can recover. They are not at fault, they seem to have been born that way with grave emotional and mental disorders. I am often grateful for Trolls; they remind me of what I used to be like and my gratitude grows when I remember what happened and what I am like now. Maybe there should be a category set aside for Trolls where their posts can be moved to rather than deleted. They can post amongst themselves and anyone can, if they so choose join in the "conversation." Deleting them feeds into their argument that they are being censored. Acceptance, love and tolerance can mean that even though most folks don't care for what they say, they have the right to say it. In a different category, they can bash away at their heart's content without censorship as we show them love by either participating or not in their attempts at venting or reminding each person in recovery quite often of what each of us used to be like in many ways. As someone used to say on page 449 - Aceptance is the key. I may not like what anyone has to say but I have to accept their right to say it. |
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04-23-2008, 06:24 AM
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A troll is someone who is just trying to cause a stink!!!!!
__________________ All BB quotes are from the First Edition of the BB Follow directions! Sobriety date 18 Sept. 2006 Sober today thanks to AA |
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04-23-2008, 08:04 AM
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| '55 Classic  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waco, TX
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| Nice thought Yogurt. However, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who's like to be the Moderator on that particular thread! We need to keep in mind that when you have public forums such as these, society still has some rules that must be followed for public viewing safety. People like the one described here do require love and tolerance, however society also dictates that we must follow the rules. If we are to become productive and responsible members of society, we have to follow those rules to the best of our ability and become good examples for others to learn from.
__________________ "Temper is a quality that at a critical moment brings out the best in steel and worst in people." - William Grohse NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book |
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04-23-2008, 08:38 AM
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Let's not confuse our SR Policy Rules & Regs with AA's Policy Rules and Regs.  SR is on line by the generosity of our owners. We are their guest. Therefore... each member is expected to follow SR Policy. That means our site is moderated and we will make certain Policy is followed. The Troll in this instance has now used 12 or so persona. He has consistantly disrupted our Forums and barraged other members with vulgar PM's. There will be no special forum for Trolls. Nor will they be welcomed at SR.
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04-23-2008, 08:53 AM
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| Member  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nebraska
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__________________  If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it will be enough.- Meister Eckhart If you are headed in the wrong direction ... God allows U-Turns | |
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04-23-2008, 08:56 AM
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| Life the gift of recovery!  Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home is where the heart is
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| I for one have been at an unmoderated site where trolls ran rampant. I am grateful for SR having the forsight to have the rules it has as well as moderators. It helps to maintain a positive, supportive atmosphere here rather than a negative disparging, discouraging, atmosphere I experienced at the other site. Trolls do not help the new comer, nor are they conducing to good discussion and open communication. They light fires under people and stir the pot for the sake of stirring the pot. Not because they care about the topic but because they find they can control peoples reactions to it. If and when they truly want help they are more than welcome to come here and find it without trolling. In the meantime they will just have to stick to the unmoderated boards. JMHO Thank you Moderators for all you do, I for one truly appreciate and recognize the hard work you put in here.
__________________ NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, however, if faced with courage, need not be lived again. - Maya Angelou |
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04-23-2008, 11:29 AM
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04-23-2008, 11:41 AM
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From my feeble understanding the guidelines, SR policy would be applied according to the nature of the incident. I would think it extremely hard to gauge "intent" on the internet and especially with the subject matter here.
__________________ "Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." Abraham Lincoln Excerpts; First Edition of the Big Book of Alcoholic Anonymous |
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04-23-2008, 02:06 PM
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ananda wrote: "OK - what is a "troll" I thought those were people on line trying to get personal information in order to steal your id." there is a difference between trolling and being or acting like a troll. I believe the term you are looking for is "phishing." I think it is something like spam and spamming. One is a luncheon meat and the other is usually undisclosed recipient e-mail off of some sort of e-mail database or, in the matter of forums such as this, unsolicited advertising for goods and/or services posted in the guise of information. |
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04-23-2008, 03:58 PM
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04-25-2008, 09:53 AM
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a troll i've been on threads where some have been labeled that like, what do these people do with their day a beautiful day in new york and i stay off their sites but for sure, wasting the day posting senseless anwers inadvertently, is this not becoming a "gossip tree" about a troll? SRC has a moderator he / she makes a decision to delete end of story best frankie |
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04-25-2008, 10:53 AM
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I keep checking my breath to make sure I have not been drinking, how in the world can I post to a "Deleted Thread", how can I read it, and why in the world is it getting more replies then some other threads? LOL
__________________ All BB quotes are from the First Edition of the BB Follow directions! Sobriety date 18 Sept. 2006 Sober today thanks to AA |
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04-27-2008, 09:09 PM
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| Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york
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Curiousity? not really abuse of power it is much easier to label another than look at yourself there is the id, ego and superego but it is late just got home from a retreat where i prayed for my mom so.... freud is another day best frankie |
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04-28-2008, 10:12 PM
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| Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york
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| "............I guess I have to be the realistic one on this site. Trolls are made up little woodland creatures created in fictional stories..............." for real a site that implores recovery a program of rigorous honesty not to mention open-mindedness and willingness and we a labeling, judging, condemmning (deleting) someone a troll a living, breathing child of God without walking in his shoes instead of humbly trying to undestand, instead of being understood NO? a mythical character are we not trolls ourselves? best frankie |
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04-28-2008, 10:44 PM
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| '55 Classic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waco, TX
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| I'm sorry but I don't agree. This is solely my opinion on the subject and you have the right to disagree with me, but I do not feel bad about deleting a posting from anyone who chooses to deliver a diatribe of malice and hate. Maybe there is a place online for that type of conduct, but it is not here. We must have a place where people feel safe to post their thoughts and feelings. To have someone come along and take advantage of another's vulnerabilities (and send them obscene PM's) or threaten their peace of mind should never be mistaken as anyone else’s privilege. That is not a right. (I was taught that my rights end where your nose begins...) That is abuse pure and simple and should not be tolerated by anybody anywhere. I want to thank the Moderators for doing a thankless and often maligned job. Their diligence helps to keep each of us safe. Like I said before, this is just my opinion…
__________________ "Temper is a quality that at a critical moment brings out the best in steel and worst in people." - William Grohse NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book |
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04-29-2008, 03:07 AM
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| Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york
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| "............but I do not feel bad about deleting a posting from anyone who chooses to deliver a diatribe of malice and hate....." who's asking you to feel bad if you feel someone wants you to feel bad about doing your job well, that is something you should talk about with a professional i have not seen any info on who the troll is what he posted is this your opinion, too? "...........a diatribe of malice and hate....." last posting as i have now become the troll trolling the trollers of the troll best frankie the comedian p.s. i went to a new york comedy club about a week ago and it has given me a real sense of how funny we are oooopppssssss another day i got to go to work |
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MG
"When banks fail, it is seldom bankers who starve."