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| How do we gain the promises of the Big Book? Below is an excerpt from out Big Book study in our 12 step study forum (link to this area http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/step-study/). Your thoughts, experience, questions, and comments are welcome. The famous AA promises are brought about by the application of spiritual principles in our lives. They are not the result of merely quitting drinking and attending AA meetings. A spiritual awakening results in a change in the way we act and percieve the world around us. This new way of life addresses the problems of the past and prevents new problems from arising. We have a new way of dealing even with the seeming hardships and tragedies that are a part of life. 84:1 Quote:
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I might add that the Ninth Step Promises are not sommething to "get" in AA. In fact, there is nothing to get in AA. I am grateful that my sponsor didn't dangle these in front of me like a carrot. He said these were results, a by product of taking the action in the Ninth Step. Not something to sit in AA meetings and wait for. Jim
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| You had a good sponsor. I too was taught that I was not going to get the program through osmosis (although I had to go through several sponsors to find this one). I had to actually put one foot in front of the other and do the suggested program if I wanted to see change in my life. Today, I know that the promises are a byproduct of working the steps and when I stop applying the steps in my life the promises disapear. Although they are a nice byproduct what I appreciate most in this program is the fact that I now know how to live life without drinking.
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There are some other promises on page 52 in Chapter 4 that are gaurenteed to either get me drunk or blowing my head off. Maybe we should read those in the meeting.
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Once I have a spiritual awakening, which is possible through sobriety and following the steps of AA, the truths in my life will astound me. The truths of my life seem to improve daily. But, yes. If my sponsor or others had held the promises out as goals, I would not have had a way to conceive of them and would have locked in to a less than miraculous version of what actually is possible.
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Jim, I love the agnostic promises. They speak to where I have been and do not want to return. And it is gauranteed that I will return if I do not progress spiritually. I was listening to a speaker not long ago that explained that two sets of people in AA are described in we agnostics. The first set following a simple course of action has a spiritual awakening. God is the central fact of their lives. They are at peace with themselves and the world around them. They have a sense of purpose and direction in their lives. They are usefully whole. The second set are found on page 52 having trouble with personal relationships, can't control their emotional nature, a prey to misery and depression, don't feel useful, no sense of direction. They ARE the central fact of their lives. What a horrible place for a sober alcoholic to be. I would never promise an alcoholic sobriety. Meaningful sobriety.....now that's something else. And that's what the steps promise me. Today I have a life of meaning, depth and purpose. Thank God nobody just offered me sobriety.
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Kinda funny. To me, at least: I read the title to this thread. I thought: Work the Steps Learn the Traditions Keep it simple Walk Your Talk. Look around ... and there they are. Promises, promises, everywhere. *shrug* and that's how this stuff happens for me, y'all. I'm sorry it's not a lot of analysis and all that ... it's not a solitary thing more complex than getting up and doing something, anything. Taking action. DO something. For me. And for that ... I am grateful.
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I just took a few quotes from the BB and highlighted some key words, someone said sitting in meetings does not lead one to the promises, oh so very true. How many here have noticed that the very people who whine and moan about this and that in AA and who are constantly looking for loop holes or pointing out defects in others actions are the very same ones who have not worked the steps? AA is an action program, meetings is only one action, how in the world can some one 12th step someone else if they have never taken the actions involved in working the steps of AA? I am sure many of you have seen people go out after many years sober come back in and share that they are going to get a sponsor and work the steps because they realized finally that meetings alone was not going to keep them sober. Do not get me wrong, there are folks in AA that go to thier graves sober without ever having worked the steps. I have always felt they have missed out on so many of the rewards of the program. I know that going through the steps with my sponsee and seeing him grow into a happy sober person has been one of the biggest joys of my sobriety. I am able due to my working the steps to pass on the program of AA to another fellow alcohoic. I could never have had that joy unless I had taken and continue to take all the actions in the program. Quote:
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Well put Taz! my thank you button doesn't work but wanted to let you know I appreciate your post as IMHO it is right on the money.
__________________ NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book WHY DOGS LIVES ARE SO MUCH SHORTER THAN HUMANS: People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life -- like loving everybody all the time and being nice. Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long |
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