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Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RufusACanal

Rather difficult for me to let others live if I am the center of the universe. Miss, you are on target, it is humility; Sug u2 with acceptance. Indigence continues to be my stumbling block; particularly when I encounter another know-it-all. I despise them for what I see in myself as well as their substandard delivery of what I do best. LOL If you going to be a caustic !#@$&^%#$, do it with class!

Motto for this day, "Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?"

So does this mean water seeks its own level?

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stone

I am so lacking in eloquence I cant join in any discussion on the BB etc without getting frustrated about how I am not contributing how I would like. I have my views/thoughts and when I try to express them I get frustrated.

I have my EGO, and I want to say 'no! you have it wrong! if the BB is about anything it is about spirituality and spirituality isnt about page numbers!'

Of course my wanting to say that so strongly shows I haven't got IT either. LOL

A Book that remains unopened is nothing more than a block of paper........

***miss communicat*** · 01-10-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stone

I was trying to point out your own overthinking pomposity.

Are you trying to patronise me?

thanks for being your own, smug, self satisfied self.

stone · 01-10-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Treasure2Find

A Book that remains unopened is nothing more than a block of paper........

I see.

lol

RufusACanal · 01-10-2008, 01:50 PM

The need to be right for me comes from a place of desperation deep within. I too, want to be right and happy; happy because I was again right! I want that affirmation, I want that recognition, I want that acclaim; rather my inflated ego desires to be feed.

stone · 01-10-2008, 01:52 PM

I said that! All wise n cute. I aint living it.

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 01:58 PM

Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation-some fact of my life-unacceptable to me, and I find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. Nothing, absolutely nothing happens in God’s world by mistake. Until I could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay sober; unless I accept life completely on life’s terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and my attitudes.

Rufus not that anyone seems to care for anything I have to say which is hurtful to me in itself but to get past this I did want to say in light of yesterdays Malay your post was perfectly apropos. Thank-you, well done…..

bballdad · 01-10-2008, 02:02 PM

live and let live does not apply to every area of my life today,nor does it apply to every area of anyones life...unless they want to be like the rock in the driveway...learning excally what it is and when it applies is wise...

***miss communicat*** · 01-10-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Treasure2Find

Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation-some fact of my life-unacceptable to me, and I find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. …..

this is an oft referred to bit of truth for this alkie.

practice, practice, practice......

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stone

I said that! All wise n cute. I aint living it.

A book holds a house of gold.

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by miss communicat

this is an oft referred to bit of truth for this alkie.

practice, practice, practice......

If a man knows his own self, he knows other beings and God. What is my ego? Ponder deeply, and you will know that there is no such thing as ‘I’. As you peel off the skin of an onion, you find it consists only of skin; you cannot find any kernel in it. So too on analysing the ego, you will find that there is no real entity that you can call ‘I’. Such an analysis of the ego convinces one that the ultimate substance is God alone. When egotism drops away, Divinity manifests Itself.

stone · 01-10-2008, 02:25 PM

dr bob??

sugErspun · 01-10-2008, 02:43 PM

It's Sri Ramakrishna (the peeling of an onion post ^2 above.)

Give credit where credit is due.

sugErspun · 01-10-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Treasure2Find

Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation-some fact of my life-unacceptable to me, and I find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. Nothing, absolutely nothing happens in God’s world by mistake. Until I could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay sober; unless I accept life completely on life’s terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and my attitudes.

Big Book page 448 - nice.

bugsworth · 01-10-2008, 02:52 PM

Stone that cracked me up!!! I scared my bird I laughed so loud!!! Thanks!

RufusACanal · 01-10-2008, 03:35 PM

OK Copper, you won't take me alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsworth

Stone that cracked me up!!! I scared my bird I laughed so loud!!! Thanks!

Don't find fault with anyone, not even with an insect or a Bug. As you pray to God for devotion, so also pray that you may not find fault with anyone. As I pray.....

Live and Let Live.....

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sugErspun

Big Book page 448 - nice.

Do you know if they took that out of the Forth Edition, I had to go back to the third. Maybe if I paid more attention the the forwards right, did they move it or take it out?

bugsworth · 01-10-2008, 04:04 PM

T2F

"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. for with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye."
Matthew 7:1-5

RufusACanal · 01-10-2008, 04:24 PM

...shucks, I wonder what I am missing behind that IGNORE button? Carol was right, again!

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsworth

T2F

"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. for with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye."
Matthew 7:1-5

Don't find fault with anyone, not even with an insect or a Bug. As you pray to God for devotion, so also pray that you may not find fault with anyone. As I pray.....

Aa_vark · 01-10-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Treasure2Find

Do you know if they took that out of the Forth Edition, I had to go back to the third. Maybe if I paid more attention the the forwards right, did they move it or take it out?

no, its there, but moved... renamed "acceptance is the answer". Orig called "Dr. , addict, alcoholic..."

my serenity is inversly proportional to my level of acceptance... great stuff...

Treasure2Find · 01-10-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aa_vark

no, its there, but moved... renamed "acceptance is the answer". Orig called "Dr. , addict, alcoholic..."

my serenity is inversley proportional to my level of acceptance... great stuff...

Thank you very much for your help.......

**nandm** · 01-10-2008, 08:30 PM

Can we get back to the OP's thread topic?

It really is a good one. But it seems the theme has changed into live and tell others how to live. Experience, strength, and hope is what sharing in AA is about. That gets a message across better than beating someone over the head with the book, or holy book wars will ever get. I have become rather disappointed the past few days at how many posts have been ruined because people have to throw their egos around. Can we just take a break from the bickering? Maybe remembering the kindergarten rule "If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all," might be worth remembering here.

Here is the OP.

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Originally Posted by RufusACanal

"Live and Let Live"
The old saying "Live and Let Live" seems so commonplace, it is easy to overlook its value. Of course, one reason it has been said over and over for years is that it has proved beneficial in so many ways.

To begin to put the concept of "Live and Let Live" into practice, we must face this fact: there are people in A.A., and everywhere else, who sometimes say things we disagree with, or do things we don't like. Learning to live with differences is essential to our comfort.

In fact, in A.A. much emphasis is placed on learning how to tolerate other people's behaviour. However offensive or distasteful it may seem to us, it is certainly not worth drinking about. Our own recovery is too important. Alcoholism can and does kill, we recall.

01-10-2008, 02:02 PM	#33 (permalink)
bballdad Is my work solid so far? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,155	live and let live does not apply to every area of my life today,nor does it apply to every area of anyones life...unless they want to be like the rock in the driveway...learning excally what it is and when it applies is wise... __________________ give freely of what you find and join us

01-10-2008, 01:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
RufusACanal Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,515	The need to be right for me comes from a place of desperation deep within. I too, want to be right and happy; happy because I was again right! I want that affirmation, I want that recognition, I want that acclaim; rather my inflated ego desires to be feed.

01-10-2008, 01:52 PM	#31 (permalink)
stone Guru Stone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,391	I said that! All wise n cute. I aint living it.

01-10-2008, 01:58 PM	#32 (permalink)
Treasure2Find Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 226	Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation-some fact of my life-unacceptable to me, and I find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. Nothing, absolutely nothing happens in God’s world by mistake. Until I could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay sober; unless I accept life completely on life’s terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and my attitudes. Rufus not that anyone seems to care for anything I have to say which is hurtful to me in itself but to get past this I did want to say in light of yesterdays Malay your post was perfectly apropos. Thank-you, well done…..

01-10-2008, 02:25 PM	#37 (permalink)
stone Guru Stone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,391	dr bob??

01-10-2008, 02:43 PM	#38 (permalink)
sugErspun Thumper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles Ca Posts: 1,307	It's Sri Ramakrishna (the peeling of an onion post ^2 above.) Give credit where credit is due.

01-10-2008, 02:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
bugsworth Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,193	Stone that cracked me up!!! I scared my bird I laughed so loud!!! Thanks!

01-10-2008, 03:35 PM	#41 (permalink)
RufusACanal Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,515	OK Copper, you won't take me alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-10-2008, 04:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
bugsworth Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,193	T2F "Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. for with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye." Matthew 7:1-5

01-10-2008, 04:24 PM	#45 (permalink)
RufusACanal Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,515	...shucks, I wonder what I am missing behind that IGNORE button? Carol was right, again!