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Irish Virus · 11-05-2006, 06:47 PM

was changed to Alcoholism-12 Step Support? Thanks

Found · 11-05-2006, 07:07 PM

I'm in favour and without wanting to pre-empt the team it is probably simply because its existence and manner of running haven't been specifically endorsed by any AA body, so we are on a par with the Big Book Study events and videos for example. Or people who organise dances for AA members?

FriendofBill · 11-05-2006, 07:22 PM

The Nar Anon forum name was also changed...prob cus the 12 steppers dont want us using thier names...no biggie.

**CarolD** · 11-05-2006, 07:46 PM

It's a copywrite issue ..

To prevent legal problems that may arise
the owners of SR took action and we
had a name change.

We will still be sharing our AA ES&H as usual.

"A rose is a rose is a rose
by any other name
still smells as sweet"
G. Stein

fraankie · 11-05-2006, 08:21 PM

ah,
polictical correctness?

**CarolD** · 11-05-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

ah,
polictical correctness?

Nope...Legal correctness

Taiman · 11-05-2006, 09:23 PM

Has AA being going after people who use the AA name?

**CarolD** · 11-05-2006, 09:47 PM

Here is a link that has the SR Policy Rules & Regs...

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ting-tips.html (Policies, Rules & Posting Tips)

Found · 11-06-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taiman

Has AA being going after people who use the AA name?

As an AA member appreciating that the Traditions are what gave me AA where and when I needed it (six times over), I immensely greatly appreciate the friendly, loving, affirming gesture by persons showing they are in full harmony with AA Traditions by letting AA bodies endorse what they endorse.
Ever enjoyed the Big Book Study videos with Joe McQ or gone to one of their weekends?
Some local AA members organise a dance for AA members and their families. It is not conference approved so is not called AA. It's great fun!

Taiman · 11-11-2006, 11:08 AM

I am aware of the traditions. I have been to big book studies and I have been to see Joe & Charlie. AA Conferences don't use the AA name because they are breaking traditions by charging for the conferences and I understand the necessity to do this. They couldn't be sure a 7th tradition basket would cover their expenses. However ironically many/most conferences get the money to front these conferences from their local intergroup, who in turn get the money from AA groups, who get the money from the 7th tradition, but that is another argument.

Perhaps I articulated myself poorly. This forum was the Alcoholics Anonymous forum for some time and I am assuming the forum leaders were aware of the traditions during that time. As this isn't an official AA forum, they are not bound by them.

Did AA or their legal representatives contact the forum and ask or suggest that this forum change its name? Were there legal consequences implied if the board's owners didn't make those changes?

***Morning Glory*** · 11-11-2006, 11:59 AM

We received some complaints from members on another thread about the NA name being used here. Al-anon forced us to change the name of our al-anon forum a couple of years ago. We were not contacted by representatives on the other name changes, but the owners thought they should change the names because they are trademarked names in the US Patent and Trademark office.

11-05-2006, 06:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Irish Virus Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 168	Any reason why the Alcoholics Anonymous forum was changed to Alcoholism-12 Step Support? Thanks

11-05-2006, 07:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, Ga. USA Posts: 16,037	It's a copywrite issue .. To prevent legal problems that may arise the owners of SR took action and we had a name change. We will still be sharing our AA ES&H as usual. "A rose is a rose is a rose by any other name still smells as sweet" G. Stein __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

11-05-2006, 09:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, Ga. USA Posts: 16,037	Here is a link that has the SR Policy Rules & Regs... http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ting-tips.html (Policies, Rules & Posting Tips) __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

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Found Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 62	I'm in favour and without wanting to pre-empt the team it is probably simply because its existence and manner of running haven't been specifically endorsed by any AA body, so we are on a par with the Big Book Study events and videos for example. Or people who organise dances for AA members?

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FriendofBill 1000 Post Club Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Recoveryville, USA Posts: 1,296	The Nar Anon forum name was also changed...prob cus the 12 steppers dont want us using thier names...no biggie.

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fraankie Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york Posts: 1,402	ah, polictical correctness?

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Taiman Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 98	Has AA being going after people who use the AA name?

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Taiman Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 98	I am aware of the traditions. I have been to big book studies and I have been to see Joe & Charlie. AA Conferences don't use the AA name because they are breaking traditions by charging for the conferences and I understand the necessity to do this. They couldn't be sure a 7th tradition basket would cover their expenses. However ironically many/most conferences get the money to front these conferences from their local intergroup, who in turn get the money from AA groups, who get the money from the 7th tradition, but that is another argument. Perhaps I articulated myself poorly. This forum was the Alcoholics Anonymous forum for some time and I am assuming the forum leaders were aware of the traditions during that time. As this isn't an official AA forum, they are not bound by them. Did AA or their legal representatives contact the forum and ask or suggest that this forum change its name? Were there legal consequences implied if the board's owners didn't make those changes?

11-11-2006, 11:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
*Morning Glory* Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,285	We received some complaints from members on another thread about the NA name being used here. Al-anon forced us to change the name of our al-anon forum a couple of years ago. We were not contacted by representatives on the other name changes, but the owners thought they should change the names because they are trademarked names in the US Patent and Trademark office.

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