Option or Not? - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

Chance · 09-24-2006, 06:00 PM

Just curious here I have heard a lot of different things on this and just wondering who has a option or not

aasharon90 · 09-24-2006, 07:39 PM

Hi im sharon and Im an Alcoholic...
Been sober since 8-11-90 by the Grace
of my HP and people like u here in SR.
For that and u im truely grateful.

The option to drink? Sure i have the option
to drink or not..TODAY.....TODAY i choose not
to drink....Alcohol is POISON to me...

I tried to kill myself back in Aug 90 because
i couldnt control my cravings for POISON....

The CHOICE for me TODAY IS SOBRIETY...
RECOVERY. ID rather share my experiences.
strengths and hopes here with u guys in the
privacy and safety of my own home and off
the streets. Ill take this anytime than to me
drinking and driving trying to kill someone
or myself again.

Thanks for letting me share.

Chance · 09-25-2006, 04:04 AM

OK we have changed a few questions here, I think that the other ones we simular so we made it a little simplier. I can not vote I guess so here we go.

KarenOskie · 09-25-2006, 05:09 AM

Of course, that option is there. But it's like the option to put a gun to my head. It's an option but one I choose not to consider. So I like to think of it as drinking/drugs are not an option for me. I choose not to accept them as an option.

Phinneas · 09-25-2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenOskie

Of course, that option is there. But it's like the option to put a gun to my head. It's an option but one I choose not to consider. So I like to think of it as drinking/drugs are not an option for me. I choose not to accept them as an option.

Well said, Karen.

Cathy31 · 09-25-2006, 11:44 AM

It's like an option to commit suicide painfully and slowly - of course I can.

But for what!?

Today I choose the option of being clean and serene...it's not always perfect, but boy oh boy it's wonderful to have the opportunity to live without fear and guilt...or at least in manageable doses, lol!

I mean that is the option! Amazing!!!

Chy · 09-26-2006, 02:57 PM

When you make the choice to be sober the option to drink goes out the window.

girlindc · 09-26-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chy

When you make the choice to be sober the option to drink goes out the window.

^^ werd

Chance · 09-26-2006, 03:09 PM

When I started this poll it was because some of the old timers get mad at you here when YOU state that you choose to not have the option today. They want you to know that you will always have that option to drink or not. But for me and my mind if I leave room to have that option than I set myself up, I don't need that in my life. I have the freedom to choose that is what clean time has given me. When I was using, we don't have that choice so today, I am happy that I can choose what works for me.

Love Vic

This kind of reminds me of the thread that I started about Russian roulette I mean people didn't like that thread but hey this is not a game

this is life or death.

jimhere · 09-26-2006, 06:28 PM

Depends on whether you have lost the power of choice. A choice is defined as two or more reasonable options.

In active alcoholism, there is no choice but to drink. In the sunlight of the spirit, there is no choice to drink because God has removed the problem.

BuDoc · 09-26-2006, 06:48 PM

I always have the option to drink or use, I just choose not to...

Hang loose, Doc.

fraankie · 09-26-2006, 07:06 PM

i go with the
daily reprieve theory
i don't have to drink today

best
fraankie

2dayzmuse · 09-26-2006, 07:15 PM

I think drinking is more of a choice then an option.

BuDoc · 09-26-2006, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dayzmuse

I think drinking is more of a choice then an option.

Option/Choice? Isn't it just semantic?

We all have the option to choose to drink or use again, but we make the choice not to exercise that option because we don't like the probable outcome...

Hang loose, Doc.

Chance · 09-26-2006, 08:42 PM

That is one of the reasons that I put

Quote:

I have chosen to not have a option to use at all.

Because I didn't have the option or the choice when I was in the depths of addiction, however when I finally got a little space between me and the last one, I knew that I had a choice, I also have an option. I have the choice to have the option or not. At least that is how I look at it.

If you tell that to a few old timers here where I live and other places I am talking about 20 plus years they will tell you that you don't know sh!t about recovery, to keep your own coments to yourself. They will also say that if it isn't in the first 164 AA Big Book or the first 103 NA Basic Text, then there isn't anything to it. However then they jump right to the 417 4th Edition AA big Book and want to talk about acceptance.

Just

2dayzmuse · 09-26-2006, 09:01 PM

For me, I do not have an option to drink. There is no option. I do have the right to choose however. I choose no option. I think you are right though, semantics, or how you skew the perspective. I always thought that it was my option, then it wasn't. Then my sponsor told me that it was an option, if I chose it. Now I'm really confused. Today, plain and simple, I don't drink because it is a bad idea. In that sense, I like to few it as I have no choice, don't drink.

BuDoc · 09-26-2006, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dayzmuse

For me, I do not have an option to drink. There is no option. I do have the right to choose however. I choose no option. I think you are right though, semantics, or how you skew the perspective. I always thought that it was my option, then it wasn't. Then my sponsor told me that it was an option, if I chose it. Now I'm really confused. Today, plain and simple, I don't drink because it is a bad idea. In that sense, I like to few it as I have no choice, don't drink.

2Dayzmuse, I'd say you made a choice and picked the best option... By the way, "Who's on first?"

Hang loose, Doc.

2dayzmuse · 09-27-2006, 08:39 PM

Haha...

BuDoc · 09-27-2006, 08:41 PM

I said option, not boogers... Bwhahahaha!

Hang loose, Doc.

Cindi R · 09-28-2006, 03:31 PM

I really don't quite understand the question...
Using/drinking is always an option for me.
Today I choose to remain drug and alcohol free.
The only way that it would not be an option, is if I were placed in a rubber room somewhere...or sent to live on the moon...
I can say that in certain times...I've "thought" about using...but I never acted on those thoughts.
In fact, I used to drive by the dope dealers house everyday on my way to a meeting...
I always knew that I could decide to stop there instead.
But I made a conscious decision to go to a NA or an AA meeting instead.

In fact, I thought about going out drinking to celebrate my 1 year clean from dope...
but I didn't cause I know that I could just as easily be an alcoholic...

nogard · 09-28-2006, 08:14 PM

I choose not to drinkl and not to use
one day at a time

Didn't answer the poll as with all polls its somewhat limited.

2dayzmuse · 09-29-2006, 07:56 PM

It is not a viable option.

fraankie · 09-29-2006, 10:00 PM

just thought of this
the theory is
"once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic'
in a sense
and
i remember when i was drinking
it was more like "a need"
i nnever went to a bar and said
"to drink or not to drink"
or
walking into a deli
"now i have an option to buy a colt 45 or a diet coke"
it was like
"hey, hey, down the hatch"
it wasn't till i got the message
that i didn't have to live that way anymore

best
fraankie

View Poll Results: Options or NOT?
Yes I do have the option to use/drink	8	40.00%
No I don't have a option to use/dring	1	5.00%
I have chosen to not have a option to use at all.	10	50.00%
None of the above	1	5.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

09-24-2006, 06:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chance JUST DO IT!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Here Or There Posts: 7,393 Blog Entries: 10	Option or Not? Just curious here I have heard a lot of different things on this and just wondering who has a option or not __________________ With Love and Respect Vic With God and A Little Luck We won't have to use today

09-24-2006, 07:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
aasharon90 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 4,857	Hi im sharon and Im an Alcoholic... Been sober since 8-11-90 by the Grace of my HP and people like u here in SR. For that and u im truely grateful. The option to drink? Sure i have the option to drink or not..TODAY.....TODAY i choose not to drink....Alcohol is POISON to me... I tried to kill myself back in Aug 90 because i couldnt control my cravings for POISON.... The CHOICE for me TODAY IS SOBRIETY... RECOVERY. ID rather share my experiences. strengths and hopes here with u guys in the privacy and safety of my own home and off the streets. Ill take this anytime than to me drinking and driving trying to kill someone or myself again. Thanks for letting me share. __________________ "A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED" SHARON B. Baton Rouge, La. 8-11-90 I turn my will and life over to the care of a Power greater than I on a daily bases for guidance, care and protection.

09-25-2006, 04:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chance JUST DO IT!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Here Or There Posts: 7,393 Blog Entries: 10	OK we have changed a few questions here, I think that the other ones we simular so we made it a little simplier. I can not vote I guess so here we go. __________________ With Love and Respect Vic With God and A Little Luck We won't have to use today

09-26-2006, 03:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chance JUST DO IT!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Here Or There Posts: 7,393 Blog Entries: 10	When I started this poll it was because some of the old timers get mad at you here when YOU state that you choose to not have the option today. They want you to know that you will always have that option to drink or not. But for me and my mind if I leave room to have that option than I set myself up, I don't need that in my life. I have the freedom to choose that is what clean time has given me. When I was using, we don't have that choice so today, I am happy that I can choose what works for me. Love Vic This kind of reminds me of the thread that I started about Russian roulette I mean people didn't like that thread but hey this is not a game this is life or death. __________________ With Love and Respect Vic With God and A Little Luck We won't have to use today

09-25-2006, 05:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
KarenOskie Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 174	Of course, that option is there. But it's like the option to put a gun to my head. It's an option but one I choose not to consider. So I like to think of it as drinking/drugs are not an option for me. I choose not to accept them as an option.

09-25-2006, 11:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cathy31 1 bite&all resistance crumbles Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: IRELAND Posts: 2,160	It's like an option to commit suicide painfully and slowly - of course I can. But for what!? Today I choose the option of being clean and serene...it's not always perfect, but boy oh boy it's wonderful to have the opportunity to live without fear and guilt...or at least in manageable doses, lol! I mean that is the option! Amazing!!!

09-26-2006, 02:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 5,867	When you make the choice to be sober the option to drink goes out the window.

09-26-2006, 06:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
jimhere Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 2,392	Depends on whether you have lost the power of choice. A choice is defined as two or more reasonable options. In active alcoholism, there is no choice but to drink. In the sunlight of the spirit, there is no choice to drink because God has removed the problem.

09-26-2006, 06:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
BuDoc Recovering perpetual kid... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Layton Utah Posts: 223	I always have the option to drink or use, I just choose not to... Hang loose, Doc. __________________ Show me the way home...

09-26-2006, 07:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
fraankie Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york Posts: 1,395	i go with the daily reprieve theory i don't have to drink today best fraankie

09-26-2006, 07:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,094	I think drinking is more of a choice then an option.

09-26-2006, 09:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,094	For me, I do not have an option to drink. There is no option. I do have the right to choose however. I choose no option. I think you are right though, semantics, or how you skew the perspective. I always thought that it was my option, then it wasn't. Then my sponsor told me that it was an option, if I chose it. Now I'm really confused. Today, plain and simple, I don't drink because it is a bad idea. In that sense, I like to few it as I have no choice, don't drink.

09-27-2006, 08:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,094	Haha...

09-27-2006, 08:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
BuDoc Recovering perpetual kid... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Layton Utah Posts: 223	I said option, not boogers... Bwhahahaha! Hang loose, Doc. __________________ Show me the way home...

09-28-2006, 03:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cindi R Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere,USA Posts: 511	I really don't quite understand the question... Using/drinking is always an option for me. Today I choose to remain drug and alcohol free. The only way that it would not be an option, is if I were placed in a rubber room somewhere...or sent to live on the moon... I can say that in certain times...I've "thought" about using...but I never acted on those thoughts. In fact, I used to drive by the dope dealers house everyday on my way to a meeting... I always knew that I could decide to stop there instead. But I made a conscious decision to go to a NA or an AA meeting instead. In fact, I thought about going out drinking to celebrate my 1 year clean from dope... but I didn't cause I know that I could just as easily be an alcoholic... __________________ There's no gram like the program

09-28-2006, 08:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
nogard everything is already ok Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne Victoria Australia Posts: 16,962 Blog Entries: 3	I choose not to drinkl and not to use one day at a time Didn't answer the poll as with all polls its somewhat limited. __________________ ...And like a bird that's on the wing and is flying free He can hear the song of home endlessly

09-29-2006, 07:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,094	It is not a viable option.

09-29-2006, 10:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
fraankie Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york Posts: 1,395	just thought of this the theory is "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic' in a sense and i remember when i was drinking it was more like "a need" i nnever went to a bar and said "to drink or not to drink" or walking into a deli "now i have an option to buy a colt 45 or a diet coke" it was like "hey, hey, down the hatch" it wasn't till i got the message that i didn't have to live that way anymore best fraankie

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