Message Boards and Forums Directory
ALCOHOL ADDICTION
12 STEPS
Discuss and learn more about these
following steps for AA
CHAT MEETINGS
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
NARCOTICS ADDICTION
12 STEPS
Discuss and learn more about these
following steps for NA

Go Back   SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information > Alcoholism Information > Alcoholism-12 Step Support
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Chat Room [3]

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-16-2006, 04:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
aasharon90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,749
Question Do You Think Of This Motto: " But For The Grace Of God "?

Hi Im Sharon and Im an Alcoholic.


When I read or hear these stories, do I/you think about this motto: " But for the grace of God?"



A Police captain once told about certain
cases he had come across in his police
work. The cause of the tragedy in each case
was drunkenness. He told his audience
about a man who got into an argument with
his wife while he was drunk and beat her
to death. Then he went out and drank some
more. The police captain also told about
a man who got too near the bridge of an
old quarry hole when he was drunk and fell
one hundred and fifty feet to his death.
__________________
"A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED"


SHARON M.
Baton Rouge, La.
8-11-90

"Made A Decision To Turn My Will And Life Over To The Care Of God As I Understand Him."
aasharon90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2006, 04:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
paulmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 1,077
I hear them often, in my meetings. I have no doubt at all that this disease is a killer. I broke my neck in drink. Yes, I often think, there but for the grace of God. And whenever I hear someone say in a meeting - but for the grace of God - or indeed, when I hear someone say, "I know now that God was looking out for me" - I always look at the empty seats.

Thanks Sharon. You always help me think about the gift of sobriety.

Paul
__________________
It all works. It IS simple Miss C
paulmh is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2006, 06:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
aasharon90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,749
Thumbs up What Are You Depending On?

Thanks Paul I appreciate that.

When we came to our first A.A. meeting,
we looked up at the wall at the end of the
room and saw the sign: "But for the grace
of God." We knew then and there that
we would have to call on the grace of God
in order to get sober and get over our soul-
sickness. We heard speakers tell how they
had come to depend on a Power greater
than themselves. That made sesnse to us and
we made up our minds to try it.

Are you depending on the grace of God to
help you stay sober?
__________________
"A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED"


SHARON M.
Baton Rouge, La.
8-11-90

"Made A Decision To Turn My Will And Life Over To The Care Of God As I Understand Him."
aasharon90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2006, 11:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
aasharon90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,749
Do you believe that the grace of God
can do for you what you could never
do for yourself?


Sometimes we try too hard to get this pro-
gram, It is better to relax and except it. It
will be given to us, with no effort on our
part, if we stop trying too hard to get it.
Sobriety can be a free gift of God, which
he gives us by His grace when He knows
we are ready for it. But we have to be ready.
Then we must relax, take it easy, and ac-
cept the gift with graditude and humility.
We must put ourselves in God's hands.

We must say to God: "Here am I and here are
all my troubles, I've made a mess of things
and can't do anything about it. You take me
and all my troubles and do anything you
want with me."
__________________
"A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED"


SHARON M.
Baton Rouge, La.
8-11-90

"Made A Decision To Turn My Will And Life Over To The Care Of God As I Understand Him."
aasharon90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2006, 11:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Zion, Illinois
Posts: 1,586
Every morning when I wake up, I thank God for His grace. You see, God's grace, is God's gift to me. On March 1st, 1977, I went to my first AA meeting because by the grace of God, I received the "desire" to stop drinking. Here it is, almost 10,950 days later and I still have that desire. Some people don't make it a week. There but for the grace of God go I.
__________________
Music is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2006, 04:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
collinsmi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Colorado Springs CO
Posts: 771
Countless other alcoholics who had far stronger positive character attributes (and far fewer) than I have died or will die drunk. I don't have to look far to find them. My own grandfather worked as a civil engineer, kept his job and provided for his family all through the great depression. By the endof his life in the early 60s , he made out quite well financially. Every day after work, he would start drinking, and stop only when he passed out. When his doctor told him he would soon die unless he quit drinking and smoking, he was unable to stop.
I haven't stayed sober through strength of character, that's for sure, I was lucky enough to do the right things, but how did I get in a position to do those things? That must have been a God thing.
__________________
"I was violating my standards faster than I could lower them!"
collinsmi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2006, 06:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
aasharon90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,749
Any new thoughts on this topic from members just joining SR?
__________________
"A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED"


SHARON M.
Baton Rouge, La.
8-11-90

"Made A Decision To Turn My Will And Life Over To The Care Of God As I Understand Him."
aasharon90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2006, 04:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
doorknob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 2,848
No, since I don't believe in any kind of interventionalist deity.

When I hear people use that phrase, I think "damn, they lucked out." Some people just catch better breaks. Some people seen to have horrible luck, timing, or whatever. I think most people have some of both. For me, there doesn't have to be a reason for it, it's just 'the way the ball bounces.' But, that doesn't mean I don't apprectiate it when things are going in my favor.
__________________
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain



doorknob is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2006, 04:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
same planet...different world
 
barb dwyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: butte mt
Posts: 7,142
Blog Entries: 3
the Grace of God ....

Quote:
Originally Posted by aasharon90

We must put ourselves in God's hands.

We must say to God: "Here am I and here are
all my troubles, I've made a mess of things
and can't do anything about it. You take me
and all my troubles and do anything you
want with me."

Absolutely. I try to think about it as often during eqach day as I can.
Like ... right NOW!

I've also heard the stories of others' hitting bottom and lower. Also, in the bar where I worked, the first 12 months I worked there, they had 11 wakes for long time customers who died ... in the FIRST YEAR I was there. All but two were alcohol related deaths. One wake a month and I still didn't come back into the Fellowship.

Today, I have to drive right past that bar, twice a day, to get back and forth to meetings. And each and every day, I say the serenity prayer. Sometimes I say it ,, sometimes I pray it ... and on occasion, I'm practically shouting it when I go by.

The GRACE comes in when I realize that I'm in my car saying the prayer - when I could be in the bar ... killing myself or others.
barb dwyer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2006, 05:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 97
Hi

I think that just about anything positive that keeps you sober is good. All of us can find a way and do not let anyone say you can't.

Abbadun

Quote:
Originally Posted by aasharon90
Any new thoughts on this topic from members just joining SR?
Abbadun is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2006, 08:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
Peace begins with a smile
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 173
When I came into the halls I was just looking for something different for my life. I didn't even know if I had a real desire to quit drinking. Well, really I didn't because I couldn't see the power that alchohol had over me my whole life. I still thought my drinking was all a matter of willpower. So, I would hear people say," But for the Grace of God" and see the banners and felt envious that they had some special power in thier life that took them away from the nightmare and into a different way of life. I understood what they were saying, but I didn't connect with it. I didn't feel it deep down in my heart. I continued to go to meetings and not drink. I asked my HP to keep me away from a drink and a drug and I knew that it was working, but I also gave alot of the credit to myself.

About 7 or 8 months away from a drink I was doing Step 6 and 7, and when thinking about humility and my jounrey thus far it dawned on me, that I had no idea how I had got to AA. It was almost unexplainable. My LIFE wasn't really that bad at the time, in fact, my lowest bottom was 5 years prior. I really had no idea how much I was really dying inside. I started to realize more and more that the progression of this disease may or may not had ever taken me; meaning, there was a very good chance that if something tragic didn't happen to me as a result of my drinking (dui, arrested, etc) I may have ended up living a lie. Moreover, I saw what my life might have been like. I pictured a lifetime of trying to fill my life with external things to make me happy such as getting married b/c I'm 28 and it seemed like the thing to do since everyone else was doing it. I pictured myself in 15 years, somehow never knowing that it was the booze and taking out my unhappiness and frustrations on my children and the people who loved me since THEY could not fix me. I realized that my life when I was drinking was a miserable unwhole existance full of denial and lies and that had I never ended up in AA I never would have been gifted the chance to see the real truth about myself, and have a real chance at getting closer to my true soul.

After all of this realization, I looked back to my first few weeks in AA where I thought even though I was going through the drill of asking my HP to keep me away from a drink, I really believed I was doing it. Upon this reflection, it dawned on me that when I came to AA, I had every intention of drinking again. I was just "checking it out".

There's an AA group in my neck of the woods named the Choosen Few. And today, I fully understand what that means and it's not an egotistical name. For me, even though my progression might never had put me 6 feet under (even though it very well could have), I realize that I could have lived my entire life as a lie and died a very unhappy unwhole woman. Looking back I see how that could have been such a waste of human life. Overall, I don't know why I was hand picked to get sober. I don't know why or how I was chosen over someone who might NEED it more. And I don't know why some people will never get it, and either live that lifetime full of lies or not live at all. All I know is that I do believe something greater put me where I am for a reason. And for some greater reason, I'm not always understanding of, I was granted the gift of sobriety. And today, the only thing I know how to TRY to pay it back is by sharing my experience, strength and hope and helping the newcomer. My entire life I was always missing "something", and I always thought that a career, car, house, marriage, etc was going to give me some sort of purpose in life. Purpose, was what I was always searching for. Today, the gift of sobriety and trying to give it back, I believe, is MY ultimate purpose in life. Today, I FEEL what "but for the grace of god means". All this, over time, just by NOT drinking ONE drink for ONE day.

Anna
__________________
Don't count the days, make the day count!


requiredfield is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2006, 02:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 
aasharon90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,749
WONDERFUL WONDERFUL WONDERFUL SHARES FROM ALL...!

YOUR EXPERIENCES, STRENGTHS AND HOPES CONTINUE TO GIVE ME HOPE AND STRENGTHEN MY BELIEF IN THAT POWER GREATER THAN I.

Just as mentioned in the Big Book of Alcoholic Anonymous on page 60....

That God or ur HP could and would if he were sought.
__________________
"A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED"


SHARON M.
Baton Rouge, La.
8-11-90

"Made A Decision To Turn My Will And Life Over To The Care Of God As I Understand Him."
aasharon90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seeing "Grace" in your daily life serina Christians In Recovery 9 07-09-2007 05:11 PM
"tough Love" or "Kid Gloves" for daughter's mental illness miss communicat Alcoholism 28 07-01-2006 12:10 PM
Google "failure" hit "I'm feeling lucky" button. NIIIICE Greenbug Recovery Follies 8 10-24-2005 10:47 AM
Feeling "In Grace" JT Christians In Recovery 5 09-15-2002 07:01 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:29 AM.


 

© 2007 SoberRecovery, LLC.
A proud member of the SoberRecovery® Network of Addiction and Recovery Websites

The SoberRecovery Forums are operated under a grant from The Mulligan Group


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357