12 & 12 - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

c'est la vie · 08-08-2006, 09:36 AM

I'm trying to not give up on AA before the miracle happens (I heard that here-thank you) and I'm working on the first few steps. I already wrote a dozen pages of "my story" several months ago when I started drying out but then decided maybe I was just in a funk and could shake out of it and quit my effort. Now I'm starting to look at individual incidents and seeing the insanity more clearly.

My sponsor suggested that I make a skeleton story time line so that I can more easily see the progression and list only specific incidents that highlight the alcohol related insanity for that period rather than pages of emotional and nondrinking background. It's proved to be a scary and very insightful exercise.

She also asked me to read the pages in the Big Book and the 12 x 12 for Steps 1,2,&3. I was wondering if the text can be found online or is it just too much to have on a website. I have the BB but not the 12x12.

Any input would be great.

Carol87 · 08-08-2006, 10:25 AM

Try this site ...

http://www.io.com/aamen/steps.html

Edited by request of Carol87

c'est la vie · 08-08-2006, 10:34 AM

Wow! Thanks, that was perfect. Now I'm off to do my homework.

**CarolD** · 08-08-2006, 10:34 AM

...Good to see you are making progress!

Islandchild · 08-08-2006, 12:07 PM

Most AA groups also sell copies of the 12 & 12 at a minimal cost - just in case you wanted to have a hard copy... I refer to mine every so often and its very handy. I admire your willingness to follow suggestions and do the work. I can say, with complete confidence, that your work will pay off in ways you cannot even imagine! Please keep us posted - it is so good for me to hear about someone's journey in recovery and it helps me to look at my own program to see where I need to make some changes!
Leslie

Cathy31 · 08-08-2006, 12:35 PM

Wow Ange
Watching your progress is great to see! Like the idea your sponsor gave you! Well done, Ange!

Cathy31
x

laurie6781 · 08-08-2006, 12:54 PM

Here's why the 12 x 12 is not on line......

Finding the 12x12 Online.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Question: Why is it that I can find the Big Book to download online but not 12 Steps and 12 Traditions (the 12x12)?

Answer: Unlike the Big Book (in The United States), A.A. World Service in NY (AAWS), still claims ownership of the 12x12. This copyright by AAWS prevents any reproduction of the 12x12, even if it is given away for free. Anyone that reproduces the book in print or online could be sued by AAWS so it is rare that it will be found online.

AAWS provides a Windows-compatible word searchable and hperlinked version of the 12x12 on 3.5" diskette for $5.75 - order Item M-67 by calling (212) 870-3312. G.S.O also provides the hardcover edition for $6.40 (B-2), a pocket-size "gift edition" for $6.25 (B-4), the large-print edition for $6.75 (B-14), the softcover edition for $6.00 (B-15) a softcover pocket edition for $4.50 (B-17), a 5-cassette audiotape version for $18.00 (MB-2), a Braille edition for $5.60 (M-35), and a 5-volume 1/2" video in American Sign Language for $35.00 (VS-3). Prices current as of April, 2006.

Many meetings carry the 12 x 12, or it can be ordered from several different sites on line.

I too am glad to see you making progress!!!!!!

Love and ((((O(to all))))),

c'est la vie · 08-08-2006, 02:19 PM

Thank you all for your comments.

I think I might start a thread of my steps if that doesn't sound too corny or overwhelming for me. Maybe just a nutshell version so I have something I can look back on easily to see progress.

fraankie · 08-08-2006, 02:58 PM

ok
an outline is a good idea
i did it
then
as you go to meetings
things come back to you
and
you can fill in the details

best
fraankie

08-08-2006, 09:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
c'est la vie Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a better place Posts: 1,397	12 & 12 I'm trying to not give up on AA before the miracle happens (I heard that here-thank you) and I'm working on the first few steps. I already wrote a dozen pages of "my story" several months ago when I started drying out but then decided maybe I was just in a funk and could shake out of it and quit my effort. Now I'm starting to look at individual incidents and seeing the insanity more clearly. My sponsor suggested that I make a skeleton story time line so that I can more easily see the progression and list only specific incidents that highlight the alcohol related insanity for that period rather than pages of emotional and nondrinking background. It's proved to be a scary and very insightful exercise. She also asked me to read the pages in the Big Book and the 12 x 12 for Steps 1,2,&3. I was wondering if the text can be found online or is it just too much to have on a website. I have the BB but not the 12x12. Any input would be great.

08-08-2006, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Carol87 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 165	Try this site ... http://www.io.com/aamen/steps.html Edited by request of Carol87 __________________ If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it will be enough.- Meister Eckhart If you are headed in the wrong direction ... God allows U-Turns Last edited by CarolD; 08-08-2006 at 05:52 PM.

08-08-2006, 10:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, Ga. USA Posts: 16,037	...Good to see you are making progress! __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

08-08-2006, 12:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Islandchild Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hilton Head Island, SC Posts: 51	Most AA groups also sell copies of the 12 & 12 at a minimal cost - just in case you wanted to have a hard copy... I refer to mine every so often and its very handy. I admire your willingness to follow suggestions and do the work. I can say, with complete confidence, that your work will pay off in ways you cannot even imagine! Please keep us posted - it is so good for me to hear about someone's journey in recovery and it helps me to look at my own program to see where I need to make some changes! Leslie __________________ One day at a time....

08-08-2006, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
laurie6781 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,928	Here's why the 12 x 12 is not on line...... Finding the 12x12 Online. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Question: Why is it that I can find the Big Book to download online but not 12 Steps and 12 Traditions (the 12x12)? Answer: Unlike the Big Book (in The United States), A.A. World Service in NY (AAWS), still claims ownership of the 12x12. This copyright by AAWS prevents any reproduction of the 12x12, even if it is given away for free. Anyone that reproduces the book in print or online could be sued by AAWS so it is rare that it will be found online. AAWS provides a Windows-compatible word searchable and hperlinked version of the 12x12 on 3.5" diskette for $5.75 - order Item M-67 by calling (212) 870-3312. G.S.O also provides the hardcover edition for $6.40 (B-2), a pocket-size "gift edition" for $6.25 (B-4), the large-print edition for $6.75 (B-14), the softcover edition for $6.00 (B-15) a softcover pocket edition for $4.50 (B-17), a 5-cassette audiotape version for $18.00 (MB-2), a Braille edition for $5.60 (M-35), and a 5-volume 1/2" video in American Sign Language for $35.00 (VS-3). Prices current as of April, 2006. Many meetings carry the 12 x 12, or it can be ordered from several different sites on line. I too am glad to see you making progress!!!!!! Love and ((((O(to all))))), __________________ God Bless You All As You Trudge The Road Of Happy Destiny (especially when you trudgin thru alligators up to your butt)

08-08-2006, 10:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
c'est la vie Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a better place Posts: 1,397	Wow! Thanks, that was perfect. Now I'm off to do my homework.

08-08-2006, 12:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cathy31 1 bite&all resistance crumbles Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: IRELAND Posts: 1,887	Wow Ange Watching your progress is great to see! Like the idea your sponsor gave you! Well done, Ange! Cathy31 x

08-08-2006, 02:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
c'est la vie Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a better place Posts: 1,397	Thank you all for your comments. I think I might start a thread of my steps if that doesn't sound too corny or overwhelming for me. Maybe just a nutshell version so I have something I can look back on easily to see progress. Last edited by CarolD; 08-08-2006 at 05:58 PM.

08-08-2006, 02:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
fraankie Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york Posts: 1,402	ok an outline is a good idea i did it then as you go to meetings things come back to you and you can fill in the details best fraankie

Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode