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Old 07-10-2006, 08:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
debsjsu
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Levi I really liked what you said I understood it and it made perfect sence to me. It also reminded me of what the Big Book says about Alcohol and why people drink... pg. xxvi.. The Doctors Opinion... Men and women drink essentially because they like the effect produced by alcohol. The sensation is so elusive that, while they admit it is injurious, they cannot after a time differentiate the true from the false. To them, their alcoholic life seems the only normal one. They are restless, irritable and discontented, unless they can again experience the sense of ease and comfort which comes at once by taking a few drinks--drinks which they see others taking with impunity. After they have succumbed to the desire again, as so many do, and the phenomenon of craving develops, they pass through the well known stages of a spree, emerging remorseful, with a firm resolution not to drink again. This is repeated over and over, and unless this person can experience an entire psychic change there is little hope of his recovery."
Don't let the word "Psychic" scare you off or confuse you all it means is a change in your thinking... This book was written in 1935.. So some of the wording is a little different than what we use today... But my point is that I think that it is saying the same thing that Levi was explaining above. It is not really the substance.. It is how the substance makes us "Feel" and what it "does" for us. Bearing in mind that there are some "physical addictions" that create withdrawal symptoms that need to be treated by a Dr. but these do not explain people who relapse long after physical withdrawal is gone... I think what Levi is talking about and what is explained in the Doctors Opinion does answer that question.... On another note.. Yes Levi I do know people who called themselves alcoholic and now are able to drink socially. My Father who I have a great respect for is one of them.. When I was a child he was a very heavy drinker, he went to jail many times, there was a lot of domestic violence in our home, I could go on and on, I will spare you. He went to AA for a short time, I was a child then and I don't know why he didn't continue he will not talk about his drinking to anyone. It is like he pretends it never happened.. He is able today to go to dinner and have a drink (just one) He seems very content and happy in his life today. I haven't seen him drunk since I was 10 yrs old and I am 45 yrs. old now. He is very active in his church... So Yes there are people who Can an Do become social drinkers after alcoholism.... I will not be one of them my drinking history proves that to me already..... I do believe that there are no absolutes in this world, there are always exceptions to the rule. If I close my mind to anything I am creating ignorance in my own head........ Love to all Debs.... I am a member of AA..... But I am open to all methods of recovery and all kinds of people... I love you all....
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