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Andy F · 06-02-2005, 05:40 AM

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This is the first time in 24 years, the last 22 of which have been continuously sober, that I have been banned from AA. I suspect it is because my views do not conform and this is the difference between an average AA meeting and a privately owned affair. I cannot be banned for my personally held beliefs in AA. Though some AA's try to give the impression that AA is conformity to God the 12 steps, it is not. And cannot be enforced. My concern here is that this new thread filters out the element that tempers and restrains the extremists who will have the newcomers indoctrinated and mowing their lawns.

Agnostics and individuals wanting a psychological approach to alcoholism have been in AA since the start. Arguing and debate has always gone on. Some people emotionally think they can't handle that or that they need to handle it for others.

I am in acceptance of my bar from the new forum, despite never having posted there. I am grateful for the other parts of SR and the level of willingness to be inclusive and open minded that currently exists. We are all getting there, progressively.

06-02-2005, 05:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
Andy F Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London Posts: 448	Tracy This is the first time in 24 years, the last 22 of which have been continuously sober, that I have been banned from AA. I suspect it is because my views do not conform and this is the difference between an average AA meeting and a privately owned affair. I cannot be banned for my personally held beliefs in AA. Though some AA's try to give the impression that AA is conformity to God the 12 steps, it is not. And cannot be enforced. My concern here is that this new thread filters out the element that tempers and restrains the extremists who will have the newcomers indoctrinated and mowing their lawns. Agnostics and individuals wanting a psychological approach to alcoholism have been in AA since the start. Arguing and debate has always gone on. Some people emotionally think they can't handle that or that they need to handle it for others. I am in acceptance of my bar from the new forum, despite never having posted there. I am grateful for the other parts of SR and the level of willingness to be inclusive and open minded that currently exists. We are all getting there, progressively.