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Old 04-21-2005, 11:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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You make a good case for the fact that alcohol abstinence does not make one "Invincible" to the causes that kill.

My opinion of sober, however, is different that being "clean".
The dictionary definitons of sober are:

1. sparing in the use of food and drink :
2 : marked by sedate or gravely or earnestly thoughtful character or demeanor

So, I believe a person can be alcohol free, going to meetings, working the program and yet *not* be sober as defined above.

A person has to have the 2nd definition as well, in my humble opinion, to consider themselves "Sober".
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