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OmEgA-X1 · 04-15-2005, 02:56 AM

Hello Mamabear,

First off let me tell you my regrets for the condition of your son, its a shame what happened.

Salvinorin A, the active ingredient in the hallucinogenic plant Salvia, is the second most powerful isolated hallucinogen thus far known to man only seconded by LSD.

I have done countless hours of research refrencing first hand experiences with scientific data about this hallucinogen.

The effects of smoked Salvia last only 15 minutes, and the chemical stays in the system only for 3 days thereafter. There are no long term mental conditions caused by Salvia that are known, and with so much data and reports on salvia, if there was ever any found, it would probably require consistent high dosages over a very long period of time, which doesnt sound like the case for your son. Salvia is relatively harmless though it can cause temporary distress.

This being a hallucinogen however, it is very possible it can trigger latent functions within the psyche. Therefor, if your son is mentally unstable it can set off those instabilities. If your son is having persistent delusions however, he should be diagnosed for schizophrenia or a related mental illness. Though the Salvia would not of caused it, it is very possible that he was on his way to developing it (schizophrenia usually develops in early adulthood) and this hallucinogen would of triggered it, unfortunately if he were to be diagnosed with it, it would of onset on him eventually regardless.

As a concerned parent I can understand your distrought about the situation. Salvia however has been used for millenia and has never directly caused any such mental conditions. Salvia also is very effective for introspective analysis, as are many other hallucinogens. If the educated about this plant use it responsibly, it can contribute to a
state of mental well-being. However, if uneducated users use it simply "to get high", as many do, it may cause problems for those with mental illnesses, and also may cause unexpected temporary stress on those inexperienced with other hallucinogens as the "trip" of this plant has been said to be more intense than a dose of LSD, though alot shorter lived.

There are also studies that marijuana use may contribute to the onset of schizophrenia for those who will already develop it, though no direct corelation has been found, and is very unlikely to be the cause of any of your sons problems.

I hope this information has been useful and I hope your sons condition is only temporary, If he gets better I suggest you inform him he should educate himself about the things he is consuming before he does, and with already existing mental instabilities, I would strongly recommend that under any situation he avoids any hallucinogenic drugs.

PS: for further research about Salvia and its active ingredient, I suggest researching http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml for non-biased information.

PSS: Here is an exerpt of a Case report about Salvia treating (rather than causing) a mental illness...

A case report of a 26 year old woman with treatment-resistant chronic depression who reports long lasting alleviation of symptoms with acute and chronic administration of Salvia divinorum.

Excerpt: Ms. G volunteered that she has also benefited from occasional intoxicating oral doses of salvia divinorum, consisting of from 8?16 leaves of the herb (approximately 2 to 4 grams), claiming that this herb had engendered a kind of "psychospiritual" awakening, characterized by the discovery of the depth of her sense of self, greater self-confidence, increased feelings of intuitive wisdom and "connectedness to nature."

04-15-2005, 02:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
OmEgA-X1 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2	Hello Mamabear, First off let me tell you my regrets for the condition of your son, its a shame what happened. Salvinorin A, the active ingredient in the hallucinogenic plant Salvia, is the second most powerful isolated hallucinogen thus far known to man only seconded by LSD. I have done countless hours of research refrencing first hand experiences with scientific data about this hallucinogen. The effects of smoked Salvia last only 15 minutes, and the chemical stays in the system only for 3 days thereafter. There are no long term mental conditions caused by Salvia that are known, and with so much data and reports on salvia, if there was ever any found, it would probably require consistent high dosages over a very long period of time, which doesnt sound like the case for your son. Salvia is relatively harmless though it can cause temporary distress. This being a hallucinogen however, it is very possible it can trigger latent functions within the psyche. Therefor, if your son is mentally unstable it can set off those instabilities. If your son is having persistent delusions however, he should be diagnosed for schizophrenia or a related mental illness. Though the Salvia would not of caused it, it is very possible that he was on his way to developing it (schizophrenia usually develops in early adulthood) and this hallucinogen would of triggered it, unfortunately if he were to be diagnosed with it, it would of onset on him eventually regardless. As a concerned parent I can understand your distrought about the situation. Salvia however has been used for millenia and has never directly caused any such mental conditions. Salvia also is very effective for introspective analysis, as are many other hallucinogens. If the educated about this plant use it responsibly, it can contribute to a state of mental well-being. However, if uneducated users use it simply "to get high", as many do, it may cause problems for those with mental illnesses, and also may cause unexpected temporary stress on those inexperienced with other hallucinogens as the "trip" of this plant has been said to be more intense than a dose of LSD, though alot shorter lived. There are also studies that marijuana use may contribute to the onset of schizophrenia for those who will already develop it, though no direct corelation has been found, and is very unlikely to be the cause of any of your sons problems. I hope this information has been useful and I hope your sons condition is only temporary, If he gets better I suggest you inform him he should educate himself about the things he is consuming before he does, and with already existing mental instabilities, I would strongly recommend that under any situation he avoids any hallucinogenic drugs. PS: for further research about Salvia and its active ingredient, I suggest researching http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml for non-biased information. PSS: Here is an exerpt of a Case report about Salvia treating (rather than causing) a mental illness... A case report of a 26 year old woman with treatment-resistant chronic depression who reports long lasting alleviation of symptoms with acute and chronic administration of Salvia divinorum. Excerpt: Ms. G volunteered that she has also benefited from occasional intoxicating oral doses of salvia divinorum, consisting of from 8?16 leaves of the herb (approximately 2 to 4 grams), claiming that this herb had engendered a kind of "psychospiritual" awakening, characterized by the discovery of the depth of her sense of self, greater self-confidence, increased feelings of intuitive wisdom and "connectedness to nature."