Old 12-27-2013, 07:22 AM
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mkintexas
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Anthony. Remember. Sub is still an opiate. The only difference between buprenorphine and heroin/oxy is that it only partially activates your receptors.

Think of your addiction as a race car. Heroin is NOS. You push the pedal and throw the switch and BAM you accelerate, get your rush and your high. WHAT A RIDE..

Suboxone? Well. It is a small stock Honda civic with a governor that will only allow the car to go 35mph no matter how hard you push the gas pedal (take). This is the beauty and the small print of buprenorphine. It is a miracle substance in that it will satisfy your opiate receptors cry to have something binded to it. However once bound bupe will not activate it nearly as much as heroin or oxy or any other full on opiate agonist. So. You don't jones for it. You don't take more for the effect. It essentially kicks the can down the road.

my non professional non medical opinion is that addiction is a two dragon enemy. One dragon is the physical stuff. The chemistry of stimulating your receptors for an artificial high/happiness. Of course that is usually driven by a psychological or emotional need. When we finally make the decision to quit it is a daunting task. Daunting in that in order to recover we have to fix the underlying emotional drive that causes us to use. That is a hard thing to do when you feel like a cold pile of dog cr*p from withdrawal. Suboxone will delay the physical "bill" we have to pay for our addiction so that we can work on the emotional psychological part of our addiction. IN THEORY once we have dealt with that and you and your counselor have made the decision together that your progress is sufficient to call you healed. THEN is when most people feel it is appropriate to deal with the physical healing of our disease. This is when some professionals and patients elect to begin to taper off of suboxone. This is when the fine print comes in. MOST people will feel some form of withdrawal from suboxone because you are reducing the amount of activity and bindings at your receptor sites. BUT, the idea now is that you are emotionally stable and equipped to handle this withdrawal. I believe most healthcare professionals and the mfg of sub believe that your withdrawal experience will be more mild then that of a full agonist. I believe every persons experience will be different.

Anyway. As for advice. I don't have a lot since I am still in active addition. I have used suboxone though and it worked as advertised.

However. You need to go in to this understanding that it boils down to you are removing an opiate from your system. You will feel the appropriate feelings associated with stopping an opiate. First and foremost you should attempt to get under the care of a doctor. If that is not possible then research research research. We are prohibited from giving medical advice here and it is a good rule. However, if you want to stop suboxone you need to make sure you are ready. Ready would be not even remotely considering dropping a bag of H because you don't have sub.

From what research I have done. TIME is your friend. Time being that you taper as slowly as feasible. Step down and give yourself time to adjust. Keep doing that until you are as low as possible and then step off. Replace what your body is going to miss. Exercise is the best thing as it will create those natural opiates (endorphins). Are they the same as sub or H. Of course not. But it will take the edge off.

Good luck and let us know how you are making out.
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