Originally Posted by weedeater64

I don't know about the rest of those, but Smart Recovery is not what it claims to be.

In particular, their welcome message speaks of recovery through science.
This is not what they are concerned with.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is not science, just ask a smart admin what their position on that foul document is.

Science by vote is not science. Science by highest bid is not science.