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huntsober · 11-04-2009, 01:15 PM

We got an area down here that has come off the chain. Seems as if they have made it ok to carry out behavior that was once not ok.

It started out as poker after meetings. Then led to closing one of the Tuesday night NA meetings to have poker at the meeting location. The poker grew to the point that it needed to go to another location. Then came the hookers. While the wifes and girl friends were there smoking cigars the hookers would carry out their behavior.

Then one of the players was carring the hookers home and gets pulled over. Yep...hooker drops her crack pipe in the guys car and he gets charged. Guy has 12 years "clean" now has a charge on his record.

Old timers in the area make it ok to 13 step newcomers. Step work in terms of writting the steps is not being done. Heard one of them explain that just because you relapse you DONT loose your recovery. He said you just trade key tags". Service requirements such as clean time is not important. Lenght of time AROUND the program counts.

Me and my sponsor attempted to talk to one of the ring leaders with 20 years and he has fully justified himself and his sponsees.

The last straw was at our last convention. One of them was selling NA t shirts from their last function (they over ordered). In addition to selling t shirts he was selling lortabs. He explained that a doctor gave them to him and he bought them at a Rx. so whats the problem. His sponsor (20) years reported that there was no problem because everyone works their own program.

I am looked at as a stranger/ I will continue to make my message clear. This type of acting out behavior is NOT OK. Never was and never will be.

I am sure this group of people are only a small section of people in this area. Surely not everyone thinks and feels this way. However some of the people in my area have started going to their functions. I am growing concerned. All I can do is trust the addicts that came before me when they explained to me that NA is a self cleaning program.

I will stay focussed on my program and let go of those I can not control. I will however make my message clear as to what is and what is NOT OK.

Thanks I just need to tell more than just my sponsor.
J

11-04-2009, 01:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
huntsober Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 320	Not OK We got an area down here that has come off the chain. Seems as if they have made it ok to carry out behavior that was once not ok. It started out as poker after meetings. Then led to closing one of the Tuesday night NA meetings to have poker at the meeting location. The poker grew to the point that it needed to go to another location. Then came the hookers. While the wifes and girl friends were there smoking cigars the hookers would carry out their behavior. Then one of the players was carring the hookers home and gets pulled over. Yep...hooker drops her crack pipe in the guys car and he gets charged. Guy has 12 years "clean" now has a charge on his record. Old timers in the area make it ok to 13 step newcomers. Step work in terms of writting the steps is not being done. Heard one of them explain that just because you relapse you DONT loose your recovery. He said you just trade key tags". Service requirements such as clean time is not important. Lenght of time AROUND the program counts. Me and my sponsor attempted to talk to one of the ring leaders with 20 years and he has fully justified himself and his sponsees. The last straw was at our last convention. One of them was selling NA t shirts from their last function (they over ordered). In addition to selling t shirts he was selling lortabs. He explained that a doctor gave them to him and he bought them at a Rx. so whats the problem. His sponsor (20) years reported that there was no problem because everyone works their own program. I am looked at as a stranger/ I will continue to make my message clear. This type of acting out behavior is NOT OK. Never was and never will be. I am sure this group of people are only a small section of people in this area. Surely not everyone thinks and feels this way. However some of the people in my area have started going to their functions. I am growing concerned. All I can do is trust the addicts that came before me when they explained to me that NA is a self cleaning program. I will stay focussed on my program and let go of those I can not control. I will however make my message clear as to what is and what is NOT OK. Thanks I just need to tell more than just my sponsor. J __________________