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Tomas · 01-22-2009, 08:10 AM

You need not concern yourself with Step five...If it's thorough and complete...One need not regurgitate a litany of misdeeds that are embarrassingly difficult...That admission is ONLY to SELF in step four..

In step 5 it's the NATURE of your wrongs...NOT the wrongs THEMSELVES...most alcoholics miss that point completely because their 5th step is NOT thorough..

The nature of your wrongs become very clear if you take a SEARCHING AND FEARLESS 4th step..outlining for SELF ONLY the proverbial laundry list.. That is the KEY to step 5...again the NATURE of your wrongs...and if thorough.. and you have convinced God and YOURSELF
...your admission... to another being... of the NATURE is very simple... FEAR..and LACK OF FAITH

We are interested ONLY in the bottom line...not the full Monty. There should be no dump trucks waiting..It's not necessary...if done THOROUGHLY.

I took my last 5th step now 30 years ago...its as relevant today as it was 30 years ago......5 opens the door to 6 through 9...direct action..10-11-12 become a way of living...it is the panacea to what was revealed in steps 4 and 5..as relevant today as 30 years ago..That's why the steps become a way of living...one day at a time.

Now LOOK at the wording of Step 4...Made a searching a fearless moral inventory of ourselves...It says NOTHING about revealing this inventory to others..does it.

Now LOOK at the wording of Step 5...Admitted to God, ourselves and another Human Being...the EXACT NATURE of our wrongs..

Don't obfuscate the issue with your laundry list..That's not necessary nor thorough...Meditate on that list..look for that fine thread of personality driven actions..and misdeeds...When you are thorough, only then will you will find that magical thread in that pile of dirt that belongs to you ONLY “We in AA don't collect others piles of dirt”...LOL.....ONLY the NATURE of your wrongs...and surprisingly... it is the same for all.. “After all we are all connected as humans”...FEAR. But that HAS to be realized to the depth of your soul... requiring a lot of searching..”That's why it's the Exact Nature..It's the root of all those misdeeds of step 4...It's like panning for gold...”got to go through a lot of stuff to find that golden nugget

So many of you, have your work cut out for you.. How do you know you have taken the step thoroughly...You'll know..Until that's done..the true sober personality can not develop, nor the new sober life begin..The promises can not be realized.

01-22-2009, 08:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tomas Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 44	Steps 4 & 5 Simplified You need not concern yourself with Step five...If it's thorough and complete...One need not regurgitate a litany of misdeeds that are embarrassingly difficult...That admission is ONLY to SELF in step four.. In step 5 it's the NATURE of your wrongs...NOT the wrongs THEMSELVES...most alcoholics miss that point completely because their 5th step is NOT thorough.. The nature of your wrongs become very clear if you take a SEARCHING AND FEARLESS 4th step..outlining for SELF ONLY the proverbial laundry list.. That is the KEY to step 5...again the NATURE of your wrongs...and if thorough.. and you have convinced God and YOURSELF ...your admission... to another being... of the NATURE is very simple... FEAR..and LACK OF FAITH We are interested ONLY in the bottom line...not the full Monty. There should be no dump trucks waiting..It's not necessary...if done THOROUGHLY. I took my last 5th step now 30 years ago...its as relevant today as it was 30 years ago......5 opens the door to 6 through 9...direct action..10-11-12 become a way of living...it is the panacea to what was revealed in steps 4 and 5..as relevant today as 30 years ago..That's why the steps become a way of living...one day at a time. Now LOOK at the wording of Step 4...Made a searching a fearless moral inventory of ourselves...It says NOTHING about revealing this inventory to others..does it. Now LOOK at the wording of Step 5...Admitted to God, ourselves and another Human Being...the EXACT NATURE of our wrongs.. Don't obfuscate the issue with your laundry list..That's not necessary nor thorough...Meditate on that list..look for that fine thread of personality driven actions..and misdeeds...When you are thorough, only then will you will find that magical thread in that pile of dirt that belongs to you ONLY “We in AA don't collect others piles of dirt”...LOL.....ONLY the NATURE of your wrongs...and surprisingly... it is the same for all.. “After all we are all connected as humans”...FEAR. But that HAS to be realized to the depth of your soul... requiring a lot of searching..”That's why it's the Exact Nature..It's the root of all those misdeeds of step 4...It's like panning for gold...”got to go through a lot of stuff to find that golden nugget So many of you, have your work cut out for you.. How do you know you have taken the step thoroughly...You'll know..Until that's done..the true sober personality can not develop, nor the new sober life begin..The promises can not be realized.