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Shellslove · 12-17-2008, 01:34 PM

ITD - hey there =) I'm a recent lurker to the boards and actually just registered to respond to your post. I have been on subs since September 2008 after a nasty 2 year habit + of opiates and Tramadol. I just wanted to say congratulations on your desire and perseverance overcoming your DOC. It seems like you're doing an awesome job, especially after the hard time you've been through!!!!!!! I just wanted to comment on the sub use - I cannot remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure you're not doing this under a dr's supervision? It's really SO important that you do!! So many people will tell you the withdrawal from subs is a million times worse than oxys, heroin blah blah - but it's usually b/c they are a) not using the subs correctly b) tapering inappropriately or not at the correct time/pace c) not using the subs for the right purpose. This is my opinion of course - the subs have been a LIFESAVER for me, my relationship and my well-being. It's especially important that you work with a doctor if you are going to need surgery (meaning possible anesthesia and legitamite pain mngmt after care) within as soon as 2 wks. Sub has a super long half life -and even if you are only using for a short detox, it stays in your body for much longer. You may need much stronger meds when admitted for your procedures (drs usually like to keep a sub patient in the ICU for after care in these situations due to the high level of pain meds needed to overcome the sub, but your sub dr can work with them.) I know you're worried about $, etc but a good SUB dr will work with you to get to a price you can afford. Also, your PCP can get certified to RX sub. MAybe you should consider a long term sub instead of having to deal with C/T? I know you want off meds, but sub can be a great 'sub' while you get your life back on track, learn new behaviors and how to live without drugs...and with/without pain if that is your choice. Sub can also help to lessen the pain, and not take your mind away. This is getting long so I will stop--- but if you have more sub ?'s - ask away!

12-17-2008, 01:34 PM	#81 (permalink)
Shellslove Friend Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Coast, Killa Posts: 374	ITD - hey there =) I'm a recent lurker to the boards and actually just registered to respond to your post. I have been on subs since September 2008 after a nasty 2 year habit + of opiates and Tramadol. I just wanted to say congratulations on your desire and perseverance overcoming your DOC. It seems like you're doing an awesome job, especially after the hard time you've been through!!!!!!! I just wanted to comment on the sub use - I cannot remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure you're not doing this under a dr's supervision? It's really SO important that you do!! So many people will tell you the withdrawal from subs is a million times worse than oxys, heroin blah blah - but it's usually b/c they are a) not using the subs correctly b) tapering inappropriately or not at the correct time/pace c) not using the subs for the right purpose. This is my opinion of course - the subs have been a LIFESAVER for me, my relationship and my well-being. It's especially important that you work with a doctor if you are going to need surgery (meaning possible anesthesia and legitamite pain mngmt after care) within as soon as 2 wks. Sub has a super long half life -and even if you are only using for a short detox, it stays in your body for much longer. You may need much stronger meds when admitted for your procedures (drs usually like to keep a sub patient in the ICU for after care in these situations due to the high level of pain meds needed to overcome the sub, but your sub dr can work with them.) I know you're worried about $, etc but a good SUB dr will work with you to get to a price you can afford. Also, your PCP can get certified to RX sub. MAybe you should consider a long term sub instead of having to deal with C/T? I know you want off meds, but sub can be a great 'sub' while you get your life back on track, learn new behaviors and how to live without drugs...and with/without pain if that is your choice. Sub can also help to lessen the pain, and not take your mind away. This is getting long so I will stop--- but if you have more sub ?'s - ask away!