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In a Tailspin · 12-16-2008, 01:22 PM

Let me start by saying I am not an addict, so take my advice with a grain of salt, as I cannot, in any way, say I know what it's like to be in your shoes.

I can, however, say that I have watched my abf of 3 years (who was clean when I met him) spiral out of control with pills that he was getting for legitimate pain. However, looking back (as both his gf and an RN) - I can see where his biggest downfall may also be yours. When he started seeing the orthopedic surgeon for the surgery he needed, he was NEVER honest about the fact that he had gotten hooked on oxy after his previous surgery. He, like it seems you believe, didn't trust his doctor to manage his pain if the doc knew about addiction. So the doc was fully unarmed to deal with an addict who, once back on his doc, QUICKLY lost all control. Unfair to his doc and himself.

I say this because it seems that if you only have 3 8-mg Subs.......you didn't get these from a doc. My feeling is that Sub therapy (which my abf has been on for 3 weeks) is about alot more than popping the pill under your tongue. It seems you've spent a lot of your life using a pill to fix your problem......and Subs shouldn't be seen/used that way. They are PART of getting clean.......not the WHOLE of it.

I see that you have shunned AA/NA in the past........and chosen instead to work 3 jobs and go to school. While I give you big kudos for your motivation, I would also say that all the time you're spending trying to "better" yourself through work and further education.......those things should definitely be taking a back seat to getting and staying clean........because a college degree will do you no good if you follow your addiction to the grave.

Again......I'm not an addict and can't, in any way, relate to the addcition and it's driving forces.....I've lived with it in my abf and it still baffles me. Take what you want and leave the rest!!

Best of luck to you, ITD!!

12-16-2008, 01:22 PM	#79 (permalink)
In a Tailspin Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Western WA Posts: 132	Let me start by saying I am not an addict, so take my advice with a grain of salt, as I cannot, in any way, say I know what it's like to be in your shoes. I can, however, say that I have watched my abf of 3 years (who was clean when I met him) spiral out of control with pills that he was getting for legitimate pain. However, looking back (as both his gf and an RN) - I can see where his biggest downfall may also be yours. When he started seeing the orthopedic surgeon for the surgery he needed, he was NEVER honest about the fact that he had gotten hooked on oxy after his previous surgery. He, like it seems you believe, didn't trust his doctor to manage his pain if the doc knew about addiction. So the doc was fully unarmed to deal with an addict who, once back on his doc, QUICKLY lost all control. Unfair to his doc and himself. I say this because it seems that if you only have 3 8-mg Subs.......you didn't get these from a doc. My feeling is that Sub therapy (which my abf has been on for 3 weeks) is about alot more than popping the pill under your tongue. It seems you've spent a lot of your life using a pill to fix your problem......and Subs shouldn't be seen/used that way. They are PART of getting clean.......not the WHOLE of it. I see that you have shunned AA/NA in the past........and chosen instead to work 3 jobs and go to school. While I give you big kudos for your motivation, I would also say that all the time you're spending trying to "better" yourself through work and further education.......those things should definitely be taking a back seat to getting and staying clean........because a college degree will do you no good if you follow your addiction to the grave. Again......I'm not an addict and can't, in any way, relate to the addcition and it's driving forces.....I've lived with it in my abf and it still baffles me. Take what you want and leave the rest!! Best of luck to you, ITD!!