Originally Posted by
Fulldresser4 
I have witnessed people getting kicked out, shamed out, told if they didn't like it they could leave, and even banned from meetings, this at one of the oldest clubs in the county I live in. I have also witnessed the shunning, and the downright meanness for lack of a better word, and the clicques that tend to scare the newcomers.
I've experienced this, personally.
I have heard people with 20 years "sober" completely disregard any way except "their way", saying that programs like NA, Celebrate Recovery, and many other 12-step programs are bs.
That's kind compared to what some of them say about secular programs like LifeRing and SMART, usually without any firsthand knowledge of them whatsoever.