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Old 11-10-2008, 12:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by navysteve View Post
I see the ridiculous statistics being cited that come from completely unsubstantiated sources...

Just seen too many people buy into it without investigating first.
Chris R. from Ingram Texas is one of the biggest names in AA convention speakers today. He gives speeches in front of thousands of AA members at a time all over the world. He also works for La Hacienda which is one the the most respected treatment centers in the world (Dr Phil even recommends them). Since he is a professional and has to answer to thousands of critics, I expect he gets his statistics from the best possible sources. He claims the BEST statistics indicate 3% to 8% of AA members stay sober.

If it were really a matter of a few "ridiculous statistics" I might buy your argument. If you were to Google "AA success rate" you would get about 707,000 hits all of which are are poor to dismal. Below are 3 typical results.

The Effectiveness of the Twelve-Step Treatment
AA And Its Success Rates—A Contemporary Brief
What is the Success Rate of Recovery in AA?
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