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lizw · 07-15-2008, 01:02 AM

There's a lot of information in what you said.

I have done a 4th and 5th step with a sponsor at least every 2nd year I have been sober and also went through a phases of doing an annual one too. I have been sober nearly ten years now.

I have also heard a lot of 5th steps of people I've sponsored and probably wouldn't hear the 5th of someone I didn't. I say this for 2 reasons. One of the purposes of this step is to allow someone to know us. Not the us, we like to present to the world.

I know that my sponsor brings up things I have told her from time to time, when yet again I am getting myself into the same situations or am expereincing the same feelings towards another person.

I also do the same with people I sponsor. It's amazing how my of the same situations plague us in soberity.

So it would be helpful to have the person you're going to do it with remain a part of your soberity.

I've also sponsored people who like yourself have done a 4th and 5th but have continued to relapse. I don't think there is any one quick fix, that will magically make you sober. The only way is through and if you are having serious doubts about your sponsor, I'd probably be addressing those too.

PM me if you want to talk further.

07-15-2008, 01:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
lizw God's Kid Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,561	Had to think about it for a moment There's a lot of information in what you said. I have done a 4th and 5th step with a sponsor at least every 2nd year I have been sober and also went through a phases of doing an annual one too. I have been sober nearly ten years now. I have also heard a lot of 5th steps of people I've sponsored and probably wouldn't hear the 5th of someone I didn't. I say this for 2 reasons. One of the purposes of this step is to allow someone to *know us*. Not the us, we like to present to the world. I know that my sponsor brings up things I have told her from time to time, when yet again I am getting myself into the same situations or am expereincing the same feelings towards another person. I also do the same with people I sponsor. It's amazing how my of the same situations plague us in soberity. So it would be helpful to have the person you're going to do it with remain a part of your soberity. I've also sponsored people who like yourself have done a 4th and 5th but have continued to relapse. I don't think there is any one quick fix, that will magically make you sober. The only way is through and if you are having serious doubts about your sponsor, I'd probably be addressing those too. PM me if you want to talk further. __________________ ....blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.