Hey Marmalade -
I have used both methadone and suboxone, never at the same time thankfully but I hear that precipitated withdrawal is very bad indeed. So by now you are back on the subutex hopefully and things are better - yes?
What you said about NA meetings really struck a cord with me. I find your description is right on the mark with some of them I have attended and they really don't do much for me. On the other hand I have been reading this forum for just a short time so I will reserve judgment on it until I have read more and kind of get the 'flow' of things.
worthless scumbag aka Noah