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Tommyh · 01-14-2008, 08:35 PM

Tom I got the above definations from Wally P.

These (below)came from a big book workshop.I cannot remember where these "worldly clamors" is mentioned,whether it is Bill`s Story or somewhere else...guess I took a drink or two too many before I quit!

you might find something here that helps..Good luck with your new meeting!

Wordly Clamors
Sexual Clamors
Passions,desires,pleasures,seeking ease and comfort,excitement,lust,satisfaction,gratification ,control.
Security Clamors
Jobs,money,emotional dependencies,financial fears, concerns, and worries,depression,anxiety,frustrations,comforts,h ousing,transportation.
Ambition Clamors
Instinctual drives for sucess,careers,"getting back to mainstream",MY wants,plans,expectations,demands,pursuit for possessionsof things,money,people to control and enjoy,wrestle satisfaction and happiness from the world,selfish interests and pursuits to protect and care for the self (ME)
Pride and Self Esteem Clamors
Dishonest thoughts,motives,schemes,plots,dreams,old ideas,designs,looking good,sounding good,being phony,stage character,worry,self-pity,calamity and misfortune I didn`t deserve,what people don`t know of me(MR. HYDE),pretence,anger,fear,etc."WHAT ABAOUT ME!!!?"
Personal Relations Clamors
Knowing all,being right,playing God,self serving,self seeking,no thought of others welfare,"I" centered motives and objectives.
Worship of other things
Sex,money,myself,sentiment,nature,things,possessio ns,materialism,(ALL ASPECTS)

01-14-2008, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tommyh Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N.C. Posts: 18,399	Tom I got the above definations from Wally P. These (below)came from a big book workshop.I cannot remember where these "worldly clamors" is mentioned,whether it is Bill`s Story or somewhere else...guess I took a drink or two too many before I quit! you might find something here that helps..Good luck with your new meeting! Wordly Clamors Sexual Clamors Passions,desires,pleasures,seeking ease and comfort,excitement,lust,satisfaction,gratification ,control. Security Clamors Jobs,money,emotional dependencies,financial fears, concerns, and worries,depression,anxiety,frustrations,comforts,h ousing,transportation. Ambition Clamors Instinctual drives for sucess,careers,"getting back to mainstream",MY wants,plans,expectations,demands,pursuit for possessionsof things,money,people to control and enjoy,wrestle satisfaction and happiness from the world,selfish interests and pursuits to protect and care for the self (ME) Pride and Self Esteem Clamors Dishonest thoughts,motives,schemes,plots,dreams,old ideas,designs,looking good,sounding good,being phony,stage character,worry,self-pity,calamity and misfortune I didn`t deserve,what people don`t know of me(MR. HYDE),pretence,anger,fear,etc."WHAT ABAOUT ME!!!?" Personal Relations Clamors Knowing all,being right,playing God,self serving,self seeking,no thought of others welfare,"I" centered motives and objectives. Worship of other things Sex,money,myself,sentiment,nature,things,possessio ns,materialism,(ALL ASPECTS)