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Old 04-03-2007, 10:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
Tazman53
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Laurie I did not say it said that in the BB nor did my sponsor, but there are certain things that when used for the bad such as manipulation that when applied in a good way can benefit others. By manipulation I am speaking of sharing something in a manner that would cause someone to look at something they are doing or not doing that could help them.

An example would be getting a new comer to look at a problem they are blaming on some one else by sharing how you used to feel the same way about that, but you found that when you really examined the problem you found that in your case it turned out it was your own fault and not the other persons. You have not told them they are wrong, you have manipulated them into rethinking their original thoughts.

Manipulation is not always lying, here is one of the posotive definitions of "manipulate" in the dictionary.

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to handle, manage, or use, esp. with skill, in some process of treatment or performance: to manipulate a large tractor.
I agree that when some one speaks of manupulation it is generally thought of in negative terms, but not in the way we were talking about.

Teachers manipulate students all the time with out lying or deceiving them. When you get someone to look at something differently with out telling them they are wrong or lying to them it is still manipulation.
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